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Posted 9/16/2005 10:30:26 AM
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I have contacted support several times with an issue that they give me the standard response to - A response that I have repeatedly said does not work but ... Still no help.  If I use ayanova to print a work order, no problem - It prints fine.  If I go to print a secons work order - Crash, the program aborts and I have to reload it.

In my own troubleshooting, If Ayonova is installed on it's own, it works.  If Simply Accounting and Crystal Reports (Which I use) is installed, for some reson Ayanova crashes on ever second print.  My work around right now - Print a work order, exit Ayanova, reopen to print the next one, exit etc.

Yes, I have read and done ever single step on the printer troubleshooting section but as I have mentioned (MANY times to supprt) it does not work.  I am not getting anywhere with support and we are expanding the business and need more licenses in the near future but before we can use Ayanova as a fully fledged dispatch system, we need this issue resolved.

If any user out there has seen this issue and knows of a solution, please let me know.

Thank you.

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Posted 9/16/2005 10:32:32 AM
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I should add an addendum to this - Printing to PDF does not work as I get random characters in the resulting pdf file?
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Posted 9/16/2005 10:53:53 AM
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Hi PGPhantom I apologize for your frustration with our tech support.  I can't recall any issue that ever went unresolved in all the years we've been doing this.  I'd be happy to help you in more detail if you can provide your company name so I can take a look at the support emails between us in the past to get a handle on what's been tried etc.  Crystal reports does have some issues but as far as I know we've found the solution to all of them over the years so anything that is not resolved by the standard troubleshooting steps it must be a new issue we have never seen before.

If you can either post your company name or send a private email to me with it I'll be able to help you with this issue.

- John

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Posted 9/16/2005 1:19:50 PM
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Hello, just to follow up, when you had said you received no help from support I was astounded as the feedback we receive is very good and we have always put a very high level of importance on the quality of the support we provide.  We did a search through our support email to try to determine how this could have happened and came across what we think is your issue.

I was waiting for you to confirm which company is yours, however there are no other clients with similar problem that have contacted us that have not confirmed the problem is solved and the issue we see leads me to think that there may be some sort of issue with you receiving email from us as our last two requests for more information went unanswered, so just in case this is your issue I have pasted our replies below in case you are not receiving our replies via regular email as it appears you might not be.

We received three requests about a similar issue from a client in Canada, one in November, one in March and one in May.  In each case we replied within a few minutes and in the last two replies restated (as it also says on our web page with the troubleshooting steps of the specific issue you are having) that we need the specific information outlined in the troubleshooting page of the site in cases where the basic steps do not resolve the problem.

I'm assuming you did not receive those replies or you could have had this issue resolved a long time ago if you had provided the requested info. For the record here is a copy of the text from the troubleshooting page for your issue where it outlines the information we require.  (for the record this is the *exact* info we require because we have seen this issue before and resolved it before, none of this information is *not* required):

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If you continue to experience an issue, please ensure to provide the following information when contacting support:

Confirmation above has been performed with what steps

Detailed Info from AyaNova on this exact same computer where the error occurs - select menu Help -> select About this program -> click on Detailed Info -> copy to NotePad document, save and attach

Model and make of printer occurring with

Printer driver and version of the printer that is set as the default printer in Printer Settings on this computer

Does this occur if utilize a different printer and different default printer driver? (be sure to reboot the computer before testing if changed such settings)

Is printer local (physically attached to the computer) or via network access?

Confirmation if this occurs with all reports or if occurs with only certain reports, what report or reports from which screen or screens.

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And here are our last two replies via email:

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Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:47:37 -0800
To: xxxxxxxxxxx
From: AyaNova Sales & Technical Support <
support@ayanova.com>
Subject: Re: Still having printing problems

Hello

Please refer to the AyaNova Technicial Answers web page for solutions to this issue.

If you have followed the recommended solution, please provide the information requested along with the listed solution if still experiencing issues. The AyaNova Technicial Answers web page is http://www.ayanova.com/AyaNovaCE/faq_technical.htm The section to review is Errors & Issues Printing From AyaNova, and is the second solution listed.

- Joyce
www.ayanova.com

 

At 3/19/2005 04:30 PM, you wrote:

At random times, Ayanova 1.9.4.4 keeps closing when I try to print?  I have removed all printers, reinstalled them etc  etc etc about 10 times as per the instructions.  The program still aborts and closes when I try to print more than one work order.  My O/S is Windows XP Home SP2.
 
 


=-=-=-=-=-

>Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 08:44:25 -0700
>To: xxxxxxxxxx
>From: AyaNova Sales & Technical Support <
support@ayanova.com>
>Subject: Re: I have a technical support question
>
>Hello XXXXXX
>
>It is a standard answer because the Technical Answers web page provides
>answers to common issues, including this one in that in 90% of the
>cases it is due to a problem with a corrupt printer driver. In the
>other 10% it is due to an incompatibility with the printer driver being used.
>
>As outlined on the Technical Answers web page, if you continue to
>experience an issue, a list of what we need to help you troubleshoot is
>provided. Please provide the requested items.
>
>- Joyce
>www.ayanova.com
>
>At 5/14/2005 08:29 AM, you wrote:
>>Feedback from website
>>Name:XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>>------
>>I have sent this in before but I was given the standard response about
>>following the steps listed in the support area - All of that has been
>>done, in fact, I am on a new computer now.  Using Ayanova - Print one
>>work order - Perfect, the moment I try to print another the
>>application crashes with the following event recorded int he event log:
>>
>>Event Type:     Information
>>Event Source:   Application Popup
>>Event Category: None
>>Event ID:       26
>>Date:           5/14/2005
>>Time:           8:27:13 AM
>>User:           N/A
>>Computer:       OFFICE
>>Description:
>>Application popup: sc.exe - Application Error : The instruction at
>>"0x3c2ce642" referenced memory at "0x00cad181". The memory could not be "read".
>>
>>Click on OK to terminate the program
>>Click on CANCEL to debug the program
>>
>>For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>
>>This is every time without fail.  Printer drivers (Lexmark T430) have
>>been updated etc all to no avail.  PLease tell me why this is
>>happening as it is quite frustrating.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


If this is your issue can we please have the information we require to troubleshoot it for you?

- John

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Posted 9/17/2005 9:40:32 AM
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Good IP Matching - Yes, that is me.  As stated, I have uninstalled all printers etc.  I even ourchased a new computer and started having the same issue on it as soon as Simply and crystal reports was installed.  I am 100% certain that it is not a printer driver issue as I have removed all printers, set up a standard text printer and the same issue occurs.  I installed Adobe Reader v7 and the PDF export did not work, I then installed the full Adobe writer and now the PDF works but .. Here again, If I print twice - Exact same issue.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Application Popup
Event Category: None
Event ID: 26
Date:  9/17/2005
Time:  9:36:29 AM
User:  N/A
Computer: OFFICE
Description:
Application popup: sc.exe - Application Error : The instruction at "0x3c2ce642" referenced memory at "0x00cad181". The memory could not be "read".

Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program

AyaNova CE support data compiled: Sep.17.2005 09:39:41
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
USER DATA
Company:
Current user:
Program path: C:\Program Files\AyaNova\sc.exe
DB Path: C:\PCCare\WorkOrders\
DB Version: 171
Program version: AyaNova Classic Edition 1.9.4.4

LOCALE INFORMATION:
Short date format: [M/d/yyyy]
Currency symbol: [$]
Language: [English]
Country: [United States]

SYSTEM INFORMATION:
Computer name: [OFFICE]
Operating system: [Windows XP Professional  Version: Service Pack 2]

Drive information:
 A:\ - Removable drive
 C:\ - Fixed drive
 D:\ - CDROM drive
 E:\ - Removable drive
 F:\ - Removable drive
 G:\ - Removable drive
 H:\ - Removable drive
 Z:\ - remote network drive

RAM: 2096356 kb of physical memory
RAM: 33 percent of memory is in use


DATABASE DRIVER INFORMATION
ADO Version   : 2.8
DBMS Name   : MS Jet
DBMS Version   : 04.00.0000
OLE DB Version   : 02.10
Provider Name   : MSJETOLEDB40.DLL
Provider Version   : 04.00.8227


LOGO FILE INFORMATION (c:\Program Files\AyaNova\logo.bmp)
File details :logo.bmp                            C:Sep.18.2001 16:20:00 W:Sep.18.2001 16:20:00 12 KB    crc: 982881d3
Is it sample? :logo is SAMPLE ("your logo here")
BMP opens with : C:\WINDOWS\system32\shimgvw.dll (Microsoft Picture Viewer - tested ok)


FILE INFORMATION
Files in program folder:
<Files in: C:\Program Files\AyaNova>
atl71.dll                           C:Mar.18.2003 18:05:58 W:Mar.18.2003 18:05:58 104 KB   crc: 6de48669
ctschedule.ocx                      C:Oct.21.1999 11:21:36 W:Oct.21.1999 11:21:36 228 KB   crc: 1938c885
license.txt                         C:Oct.23.2002 13:12:16 W:Oct.23.2002 13:12:16 9 KB     crc: 9ec50a28
logo.bmp                            C:Sep.18.2001 16:20:00 W:Sep.18.2001 16:20:00 12 KB    crc: 982881d3
mfc71.dll                           C:Mar.18.2003 20:20:00 W:Mar.18.2003 20:20:00 1036 KB  crc: 2cd0c018
msvcp71.dll                         C:Mar.18.2003 19:14:52 W:Mar.18.2003 19:14:52 488 KB   crc: 5a3b11d4
msvcr71.dll                         C:Feb.21.2003 03:42:22 W:Feb.21.2003 03:42:22 340 KB   crc: 35563170
sc.cnt                              C:Sep.18.2001 21:25:28 W:Sep.18.2001 21:25:28 3 KB     crc: b4046426
sc.exe                              C:Jan.12.2004 12:26:24 W:Jan.12.2004 12:26:24 1336 KB  crc: 5dc7843c
sc.GID                              C:May.31.2005 13:57:17 W:May.31.2005 13:58:44 25 KB    crc: e675312e
sc.hlp                              C:Nov.01.2002 14:00:58 W:Nov.01.2002 14:00:58 1835 KB  crc: d6e4505e

Files in database folder:
<Files in: C:\PCCare\WorkOrders>
allwo.rpt                           C:May.07.2005 15:20:44 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 44 KB    crc: 917ce39a
allwobrief.rpt                      C:May.07.2005 15:20:44 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:25 45 KB    crc: 5e8c18cf
billsum.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:44 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:25 28 KB    crc: 81c58787
cbclient.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:45 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:25 24 KB    crc: 524445bd
cbdate.rpt                          C:May.07.2005 15:20:45 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:25 24 KB    crc: af2f0e1f
clienteq.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:45 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:25 25 KB    crc: 778f614c
clientpb.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:45 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 24 KB    crc: 7817deb4
clientpm.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:45 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:25 17 KB    crc: 2cb5780c
clntadd.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:45 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 24 KB    crc: 9cc2bbf5
Copy of wodispst.rpt                C:May.07.2005 15:20:45 W:Oct.13.2004 16:47:32 109 KB   crc: b5a90117
hrsmnth.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:45 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 44 KB    crc: 5a23b6c5
hrssumm.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:46 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 31 KB    crc: 74b41791
loaners.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:46 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 27 KB    crc: d71f3c8e
ncpbook.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:46 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 26 KB    crc: 5611ce2d
notbilled.rpt                       C:May.07.2005 15:20:46 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 19 KB    crc: e34aeea6

\Original_Reports                              May.07.2005 15:20:57 <folder>
parts.rpt                           C:May.07.2005 15:20:46 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 26 KB    crc: f5974a0d
partwo.rpt                          C:May.07.2005 15:20:46 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 24 KB    crc: ba2dce30
pmunits.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:46 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 27 KB    crc: 4940e27d
prtwosum.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:46 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 15 KB    crc: edb2c1a6
ratesums.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:47 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 8 KB     crc: e9b35f7c
respprob.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:47 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 26 KB    crc: 4dc9d45e
respwo.rpt                          C:May.07.2005 15:20:47 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 24 KB    crc: 02f2ea80
scdata.ldb                          C:Sep.17.2005 09:32:01 W:Sep.17.2005 09:39:37 64 bytes crc: 00000000
scdata.old                          C:May.07.2005 15:20:47 W:Sep.08.2005 18:04:04 3872 KB  crc: 90f1a58f
scdata.sc                           C:May.07.2005 15:20:49 W:Sep.17.2005 09:39:38 4228 KB  crc: 00000000
srch.rpt                            C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 10 KB    crc: 34ada95c
subrepair.rpt                       C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:26 24 KB    crc: 1a72d9d4
subrepairall.rpt                    C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 25 KB    crc: ce11f7bb
techsumm.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 8 KB     crc: 2cdea218
temp.ttx                            C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Sep.17.2005 09:39:38 367 bytes crc: c22204bf
unithistory.rpt                     C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 8 KB     crc: cf708b81
unitkits.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 23 KB    crc: d5274a04
unitspm.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 28 KB    crc: 83ed8eca
v19.dat                             C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:28 438 bytes crc: 4c2c112f
wobrief.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 10 KB    crc: 95874e01
wobrief.ttx                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:55 W:Oct.06.2004 23:31:34 1 KB     crc: 4b07c5a7
wodispqu.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:56 W:Oct.13.2004 14:07:03 86 KB    crc: 718a71ec
wodispqu.ttx                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:56 W:Oct.07.2004 07:45:56 1 KB     crc: 6ddb114d
wodispst.rpt                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:56 W:Jan.19.2005 01:13:42 115 KB   crc: f3fd79df
wodispst.ttx                        C:May.07.2005 15:20:56 W:Oct.06.2004 23:26:02 1 KB     crc: 78aa7c4e
wodispst2.rpt                       C:May.07.2005 15:20:56 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 14 KB    crc: 5ccdcc94
wodispst2.ttx                       C:May.07.2005 15:20:56 W:Oct.06.2004 23:28:26 1 KB     crc: 98792431
wodispst3.rpt                       C:May.07.2005 15:20:56 W:Oct.13.2004 15:38:10 112 KB   crc: 2452b582
wodispstlogo.rpt                    C:May.07.2005 15:20:56 W:Oct.13.2004 14:16:29 105 KB   crc: df44e31c
wodispstpartssub.rpt                C:May.07.2005 15:20:57 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 9 KB     crc: 9799a4bb
wodispstpartssub.ttx                C:May.07.2005 15:20:57 W:Oct.06.2004 23:28:26 324 bytes crc: 2cfb0a30
wofull.rpt                          C:May.07.2005 15:20:57 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 23 KB    crc: 8491244d
wofull.ttx                          C:May.07.2005 15:20:57 W:Oct.06.2004 23:31:47 1 KB     crc: 4b07c5a7
wofullnologo.rpt                    C:May.07.2005 15:20:57 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 10 KB    crc: 2fa70e7b
woquick.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:57 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:27 37 KB    crc: a8d27d0e
woquick.ttx                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:57 W:Oct.07.2004 07:42:53 612 bytes crc: 9f01127b
woquicklogo.rpt                     C:May.07.2005 15:20:57 W:Oct.07.2004 07:32:26 79 KB    crc: daf89212
wostat1.rpt                         C:May.07.2005 15:20:57 W:Oct.06.2004 21:47:28 37 KB    crc: 01df0595

Again - It has to be a crystal issue?  At least from where I have troubleshot the issue.

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Posted 9/17/2005 9:46:06 AM
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More to this issue - I did some further testing and it is my modified report that is causing the issue.  If I use the default reports from Ayanova - Appears to be no issue.  I have modified the dispatch work order to suit my needs and it is that report causing the issue.  from my understanding - Ayanova is designed so that reports can be customized so why would a customized report cause the program to crash on every second print?
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Posted 9/17/2005 11:05:11 AM
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Many many AyaNova users utilize custom reports.

If experiencing an issue with a specific report, it may be something particular to that customized report - either the query used, formatting, perhaps an embedded logo etc.

So as identifed in the list of information to provide us if experiencing such an issue, sending us a copy of your customized report file would have allowed us to help you determine what the issue is some months ago

Or it is recommended you could customize a new copy of the original report file, testing each aspect that you change until you determine what exact customization causes the issue.

Do  send us the following and we will have a developer take a look for you:

1. Zip up your AyaNova database file SCDATA.Sc using WinZip
2. Zip up a copy of the customized report file
3. Include the manager password
4. Send direct to support@ayanova.com



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Posted 9/19/2005 9:45:12 AM
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I have just email the requested information to support.
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Posted 9/19/2005 10:29:55 AM
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Was able to reproduce with the customized wodispst.rpt file that was provided that was requested to be sent in the original requests for information. Do always send requested information when we ask for it - it allows us to help you a lot faster.

I removed the embedded picture in the customized wodispst.rpt  report that was provided, and retested printing multiple times with no issues.

This would indicate an issue with the embedded picture.

It would be recommended to create a new logo, remove the existing and embed the new. If it again results in errors printing, than again it is due to the embedded picture in the customized report. Utilize a different program to create the picture.



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Posted 9/19/2005 12:37:33 PM
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Looks like the logo is the problem.  I have removed it and printing works.  No matter what format I use, or the original source of the logo, If I insert it in Crystal designer, the program crashes.  However, doing a bot of troubleshooting - If I add the log through the Insert Graphic command - CRASH.  If I copy and paste the logo, it appears to work fine?
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